Is The New Honda Civic Type R Actually Better Than The Focus RS And WRX STI?

Can the Civic Type R compete with the Ford Focus RS and Subaru WRX STI? Doug DeMuro explains why he's left wanting more
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The newest Honda Civic Type R has promised so much after the short and successful run of its shouty FK2 predecessor, and it’s safe to say CT’s own Alex is a fan, calling it the best front-wheel drive car ever. But Doug DeMuro thinks it still falls short of the Ford Focus RS and the Subaru WRX STI in some crucial areas.

306bhp might sound like a lot, especially for a front-wheel-drive hatchback, but it loses out to the Ford by around 50bhp. Both the Ford and Subaru also come with four-wheel-drive, and 0-60 times of just over 4.5 seconds, whereas the Civic is roughly a second slower.

Doug says that he wants the Type R to have more noise and for the styling to be toned down a tad. Most of us at CT like the bonkers, aero-led aesthetic, but maybe we’re weird.

Give the video above a watch and let us know what you think of the conclusions made.

Comments

LeetPandaz

Sti all day errday

06/20/2017 - 18:49 |
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FUGL_S60 (Tesla Lover 800)

It’s cool that the Civic is 4mph father than the Focus RS. But Focus RS and WRX STI are still better cars for sure!

06/20/2017 - 19:24 |
2 | 10

Focus RS has drift button
And WRX is a Subaru
Honda is a great car
But competition is even better
What a time to be alive

06/20/2017 - 20:17 |
8 | 6

Engineering Explained is a former Subaru owner so if he says its better than the STI then it damn sure is. I’ll take his word over somebody who hasn’t even driven one of these yet anyday :)

06/20/2017 - 20:37 |
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Chewbacca_buddy (McLaren squad)(VW GTI Clubsport)(McLaren 60

But does it have a bumper-to-bumper warranty?

06/20/2017 - 21:13 |
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Anonymous

I tried to watch this video all the way through but when this moron started complaining about the aero on the car without a single clue to have read any of the tech documents I lost interest fast. I wouldn’t call him a moron if he actually did his research but he didn’t. Such a shame such people call themselves car journalist these days.

06/20/2017 - 21:58 |
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Anonymous

Car Throttle… i think youre best keeping this guy for luxury car reviews. He’s making all actual car guys cringe.
He’s a journalist, not a car guy and embarrasses the Car Throttle name in 90% of his reviews…. and this is coming from somebody who’s not a fan of honda

06/20/2017 - 22:22 |
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HONDA LIFE

( ° ʖ ° )

06/20/2017 - 23:05 |
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Anonymous

He is a Ford Lover ! look at his other videos and its clear anything from Ford he loves

06/20/2017 - 23:21 |
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lowie t

Its FWD so no.

06/21/2017 - 06:57 |
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Anonymous

i don’t see any civics. all i see is a new impreza

06/21/2017 - 12:06 |
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Anonymous

Since when does Garrett from Comunity make sport car reviews?
There is a reason why honda keeps producing FWD hot hatches.
Do you know the difference between bhp and whp? Have you heard of awd losses? Have you driven a awd car in the summer? It’s boring and expensive. Sure, the type R most probably won’t be my choice for a winter car, but for the other 3 seasons - for sure.

06/21/2017 - 12:17 |
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