So; question, I understand that V8's grant you more power (typically) than a v6 or a four-cylinder. But if that's the case, then why do some racers out there use four-cylinder engines? (ex. Evo or STI) Is there more to it? I appreciate anyone's answer.

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liftedfoz

you can tune a 4 cylinder to make as much if not more power than a v8 for half the weight

04/22/2015 - 02:26 |
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And then I would assume that the same idea applies to V6 engines also?

04/22/2015 - 02:30 |
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Not exactly. A V8 with the same power adders will make more power over a broader curve than a 4 cylinder will. There really is no replacement for displacement.

04/22/2015 - 03:11 |
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Thecrazyman

Weight reduction bro!

04/22/2015 - 02:44 |
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Andrés Cely Herazo

These engines can provide enough power to have a good handling. In order that a good 4 cylinder is not as heavy as a V engine the balance is much better to go fast on corners…

04/22/2015 - 02:45 |
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Anonymous

Also a very important Point…. Turbo.
turbo 4 cylinders make a lot of power ( sti, evo, focus rs and many more) and it sounded line you where comparing them to natural y aspirated ( no turbo nor supercharger) v8’s like the one’s found in mustangs, challengers, chargers, camaros,comodores and some others

04/22/2015 - 02:47 |
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LiamMcGarrigle

Im surprised you haven’t got the real answer yet…the sti and evo have turbo 4 cylinder engines because that is a regulation in rally. It has to be 2.0 liters (or 2.5 i forget). And tunners use 6 cylinders because you can easily make tons and tons of hp with them, like the jz engines which are small displacement i6 engines, which can make upwards of 1200 horse power sometimes…hope i helped..

04/22/2015 - 03:15 |
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Very helpful comment, I appreciate it!

04/22/2015 - 03:18 |
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1.6 liters in WRC now ;)

04/22/2015 - 06:36 |
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May I ask, why don’t really cars use rotaries? They’re lightweight and can run a fair bit of power… Fuel consumption is probably the only problem.. Any ideas? :)

04/22/2015 - 11:17 |
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Daniel Carvalho

The only racers that favor smaller engines race in a series that limits total displacement. For example, WRC limits engines to 2 liter engines that see production, thus rally cars are limited to 4 cylinder turbo engines. Group B rally cars had much bigger engines than today’s rally cars because they had less regulation. In addition, sometimes 4 cylinders is all you need. A 5000hp V8 would be completely useless on a loose surface rally stage, but it will give you the best performance on a drag strip. Sometimes power is not all you need in a race car and a smaller engine will better suite your needs.

04/22/2015 - 03:17 |
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I totally agree with your point, but let me correct just two things. Displacement regulation for WRC is 1.6 liter. 2 liters engines were racing between 1997 and 2010 (even a bit before if you consider gr.A cars as WRC cars). However, displacement was a lot more different during the gr.B area, because the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo was 1.4, the Delta s4 and the 205 t16 a 1.8, the Quattro and the BX 4tc a 2.2 and the Metro 6r4 a 3 liters.

04/22/2015 - 06:36 |
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Carvalho literally transalates to, ‘the car guy’ in one of the Indian languages (Rajasthani). Good for you, brother. :)

04/22/2015 - 07:21 |
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David Holland

You can make good useable horsepower with any configuration or displacement engine. I say useable because if you put an LS9 in a lightweight car you don’t get a good car. Balance, power to weight and torque matter when building a car. Unless you just want to smoke tyres and brake things.

04/22/2015 - 03:20 |
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Ariel G

A v8 typically produces more power, yes, but it is also heavier, more complex, and less fuel efficient (relative to 4 and 6). Each type of engine has it’s uses, and the type chosen is usually a compromise of many factors. Turbo 4’s can essentially replace the old v6 in most aspects, while turbo 6 and 8 are seen more and more instead of v10 and 12 non turbo. An engineer could give a more specific answer, but this general info is all you really need. Hope it helps.

04/22/2015 - 03:27 |
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I don’t know where you get your information, but any LS V8 is significantly less complex than a DOHC 4 banger due to the valvetrain layout. Also, most LS engines weigh between 400-500 lbs, which is pretty close to the Honda 2.0 K series (the first engine 2.0 that came to mind to compare). Not to mention having the camshaft in the block lowers the height of the engine to less than that of most DOHC 4 cylinder engines. Fuel efficiency? You got me there haha

04/22/2015 - 07:22 |
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LS engines weigh less than most Japanese engines.

Take the Toyota Supra’s 2JZ engine - it weighs more considering it is twin-turbo charged.

And even if you take the twin-turbos off of the 2JZ, it still weighs more than a recently modern LS engine.

04/22/2015 - 08:10 |
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The Stan

Racing often have rules and regulations as to what type of car/engine can join.

04/22/2015 - 03:59 |
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Samniss Arandeen

I’ve seen V8 setups that had near-identical weight to turbo-four setups, both engines having the same peak power ratings. It’s not really about weight so much as each racing organization’s regulations, plus whatever the current zeitgeist of cars happens to be. Emissions regulations and the push for more technology in cars? Turbo fours start showing up everywhere. Competition designed around simplicity and reliability? Chuck a V8 in it, as seen in NASCAR, V8Supercars, 4x4s, etcetera. There are technological, situational, and of course cultural considerations.

04/22/2015 - 04:22 |
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