Why Owning an Older Supra Isn't Great

After seeing a similar post about MK4 Supras, I thought I’d share what life is like with a MK3 Supra.

1.) The Name

Whenever I say I drive a Supra, everyone instantly assumes its some kind of child eating turbo monster. Realistically most MK3 Supras are in an absolute mess. Sure there’s a few really cared for and incredible builds, but some are in even worse condition than mine, and go for parts or straight to the scrapyard.

2.) Parts

Unless you have a JZA70, you can forget about modding. There’s hardly any parts available for the earlier MA70 Supra’s (those with the 7M-GE/GTE motors). Sure you can get a bolt on exhaust, maybe put a pod filter that might actually help the engine, but that’s about it. When it comes to suspension there’s a couple options, but all are expensive and new, there’s not much of a second hand market for these cars.

3.) “What is it?”

I get it all the time, “Nice 180 bro!” “Is that a Ferrari?” “Sweet Celica!” Even in the car community, they’re so rare that not many people recognize them immediately. Representation for the A70’s is small, so most people have just forgotten they exist.

4.) “Why didn’t you get a MK4?”

Almost every single owner of a MK3 Supra that I’ve spoken to, have also driven or owned MK4 Supras. The choice is unanimous. They all prefer the MK3. They’re not as boaty, and in my opinion they look better (come on, pop ups) . It’s a pain having to explain this.

5.) Most of them are auto

My car is an auto, so are about 99.9999999999% of A70’s. The a340 transmission in them aren’t too horrible, but being a 3 speed overdrive, things get quite drone-y about 80km/h, I don’t think I’d enjoy a long road trip in my car. Sure you could do a manual conversion, but for the right gearbox, its sometimes costs more then that car itself.

6.) TEMS

Toyota Electronically Modulated Suspension. Not all the cars were fitted with this, it was an option available across a lot of Toyotas in the late 80’s/early 90’s. Its pointless if you ask me, it still worked but I pulled it out of my car. The regular ride was too soft and when stiffened up, I didn’t think the car performed very differently.

7.) Targa top

Again this is not for every MK3 Supra, but if you’re lucky enough to get a hold of an awesome targa top, its probably got some leaks after 20+ years. The seals are expensive to replace, around $500. That’s almost as much as a whole roof for an MX5. Then there’s how it drives with the roof off. The chassis flex is horrid. at about 40km/h the entire car vibrates, around 100km/h, the steering becomes quite vague. I’ve looked for targa braces but my efforts came up short. It’s awesome having the roof off, but its awful to drive.

Despite all this, the MK3 Supra’s are incredible cars. They’re also quite cheap. These are all minor problems (I left out talking about the head gasket on the 7M motors), and can be overlooked fairly easily. They don’t matter in comparison to owing what was once the fastest car out of Japan.

Comments

Jake Orr

I’ve put you in Readers’ Reviews! Awesome writeup!

12/04/2015 - 04:08 |
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Michael M

My friend and I are actually planning on buying a mk3 supra she’ll for $300, doesn’t seem bad for the price

12/04/2015 - 05:54 |
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Save that poor supra!

02/27/2017 - 22:04 |
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Eric Mark X

Hates it, Actually loves it. Best relationship ever.

12/04/2015 - 07:15 |
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cmansackattack

I can say about the same for mk2 supras. Except you’re running with the 5M-GE. Virtually no engines mods and nobody recognises it. There are common problems with mk2 supras too. Maybe I should do a write up on 2nd generations (after I’m out of school lol).

12/04/2015 - 07:44 |
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Soarer-Dom

It wasn’t until about a year ago that I found out what they were. I just thought they were the Mitsubishi GTO, then I saw an MA60 and started reading up about old Supras.

12/04/2015 - 07:44 |
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Oscar E Nyman

Nice writeup, but really “no mods/parts” ? What the mods for turbo engines are virtually the same across all cars, i have had no trouble finding parts for these cars. Sure they are not “bolt on” friendly cars, and I won’t argue that they have as many after market parts avaible as the other popular cars from the 80s, and 90s how ever there are several specialliced websites dedicated to this car so saying “you can forget about modding” is quite the exageration.

04/05/2016 - 14:57 |
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i guess its the car you have and what country you’re in. my car was an NA so naturally there was less stuff available. as well as in perth au, there’s not a big presence of these cars. i have seen on some japanese sites that there were a lot of parts available tho

04/06/2016 - 10:20 |
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Oscar E Nyman

Well at least thats almost the same here except the silvia (which we dont have here) gets changed out for a Volvo 😀

04/07/2016 - 09:56 |
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Anonymous

Interesting. Most people I encounter on the road or at car shows know I’m driving a Mk3. As for parts market, there might not be a massive aftermarket sea of parts like the JZ engines, but there are plenty of websites that offer parts for the Mk3. Driftmotion, BICperformance, Beechperformance, BattleVersion, SuperPro for various bushings, RaptorRacing, Suprastore, TitanMotorsports, GraveyardMotorsports, and many more. Upgrade parts range from multi-link suspension, coils, swaybars, driveshaft, clutch kits, flywheel, valvetrain, pistons, con rods, turbos, turbo manifolds, downpipe, exhaust, various solid and poly bushings and mounts, fuel system upgrades, ignition system upgrades, a ton of DIY stuff. Most of the Mk3s I have ever seen or encountered, in person or on Craigslist, are 5 speed with the R154. Toyota made a bunch of them. Like thousands of them. TEMS is meh, I agree. Moving on to coils anyway. Got mixed feelings about my Targa. I drift my Mk3 and I don’t notice the flex, slides just fine, even on spring/strut setup in sport mode. However, I have nothing to compare to, so that is somewhat of a bias. I love the Mk3 platform. It has so much to offer. And the 7mgte really is an amazing engine if you do it right.

08/30/2016 - 04:48 |
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Turbo Garage

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I found a webstore, just browsing for suspension, selling more ma70 parts than 1jz and 2jz! The aftermarket does not suck. I totally agree with you. Thanks for supporting the 7m love!

02/27/2017 - 22:02 |
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Anonymous

As far as parts availability, must be a little different stateside. Parts galore here. Even for NA.

08/30/2016 - 04:51 |
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Anonymous

A Targa Top Supra I rode in vibrated at 100 mph. But that was because of suspension issues. Whenever I get in a mk3, I feel like I’m in the 80’s again. not the John Delorean cocain riddled 80’s but the good countach and computer hacker 80’s.

09/30/2016 - 20:22 |
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