Nissan Stagea: Overhyped? #blogpost

During the mid 1980’s Nissan was developing two engine families which would become the basis for the 90’s Japanese sports cars. These were the RB straight six and the VG V6 engines.

Nissan Stagea: Overhyped? #blogpost

During the mid 1980’s Nissan was developing two engine families which would become the basis for the 90’s Japanese sports cars. These were the RB straight six and the VG V6 engines. In turbo form, these engines were on the edge of 280HP - the limit of what was the Gentleman’s Agreement at the time.

Although they are best known in sports cars, the RB and VG were also used in more family-friendly sedans such as the Cefiro, Laurel,Skyline, Gloria, Cedric, and Leopard - the Cefiro later jumped from the RB to the VG.

That was a lot of options from one company in the sedan market, however the market for a sporty stationwagon was relatively untapped and only Subaru had utilised this; Mitsubishi was quick on the case with the Libero GT and Legnum VR4.

Thus it was only natural that Nissan would want a share of the market. In 1996, one month after the release of the Legnum, the Nissan Stagea was available to purchase in Japan.

But is it as good as everyone thinks?

First of all let’s take a look at what we all know.

It’s a sports wagon, it has the suspension, engine, gearbox, and 4-wheel-drive layout of the R33 GT-R, and it was in Gran Turismo, so it must be great…

Unfortunately that wasn’t always the case.

Nissan Stagea: Overhyped? #blogpost

To begin, let us take a look at the different trim levels:

The Nissan Stagea lineup consists of the 25X, 25G, 25X Four, 25RS Four, RS Four and 25T RS Four (up until the VQ generation).

Only the last two variants of that list were powered by the RB25DET; Autech took the RS Four to make their 260RS.

Later models used the same VQ series of engine as most other RWD Nissans made between 2003 and 2014.

Let’s also remember that not everyone in Japan is interested in speed - most were powered by the same RB25DE as the 25GT R34, and many Stageas were bought as family wagons or work vans where it didn’t make much sense to use a turbo car.

As they were leaning towards the luxury market, it was very rare to see a manual transmission in a Stagea. In order to get a manual transmission, you would have to purchase a 4WD and have it turbocharged. Even then, it wasn’t until 1998 that Nissan offered the 5-speed manual in the Stagea.

In the M35 generation, only the Autech Axis offered the optional 6-speed RWD.

Also note that the RB25DET in the Stagea only had 231HP from factory until August 1998.

Nissan Stagea: Overhyped? #blogpost

Is it actually the “Skyline Wagon”?

If we take a look at the chassis code we can see that it is a WGNC34. You may or may not know that only the last letter represents the chassis, for example BCNR33 means 2.6L engine with 4WS and 4WD on an R33 chassis.We can decipher than N is 4WD (also note the RWD Stageas are WGC34), and WG could mean wagon.

So what is the C-part?

Looking at other Nissans, we can ascertain that C is the chassis code for the Nissan Laurel. So does this mean that the Stagea is the Laurel wagon?

Possibly.

The WGC34 Stagea and C34 Laurel both have a wheelbase of 2720mm while the R34 Skyline has a wheelbase of 2665. You can also point out that both the C33 Laurel and R33 Skyline have a wheelbase of 2720mm, however those are both previous generation.

It is also worth noting that the suspension will not swap straight into a Skyline unless you swap the top hats, and even then it only fits in Skyline sedans. It does however fit into a C34 Laurel…

Sorry to take away your bragging rights, but this isn’t necessarily a bad thing; the Nissan Laurel is a well-known drift car in countries that were lucky enough not to have banned them (alongside the Toyota JZX), and the C130 generation is a highly sought after rarity.

Should you buy one?

If they are abundant (like in NZ or Japan), then you can pick one up as cheap as $2000 - but remember it might not be 4WD or turbocharged, and at that price it will have softer suspension meaning it leans into corners much like a TX Subaru Legacy. It will also have a cloth interior resembling a Legacy, and the whole rear interior is reminiscent of… a Legacy. As I mentioned above, many were n/a fitted with either the RB20DE at 152HP or the RB25DE at 197HP.

However luxury spec can have leather seats and turbo variants are likely to have stiffer suspension, meaning not all are as bad as the one I drove.

Having inspected a bad example, common problems you may encounter include rust around the mirrors and doors, oil leaks from the valve covers, sluggish gear changes in the auto, steering rack might whine and may die soon after, and cambelt needing replacement around 250,000Km.

Considering many countries banned them or didn’t import them used, sourcing parts can be an issue. They were rarely manual, however you could still use the gearbox and pedals from other RB Nissans if you don’t mind not having a centre console.

The RB25DET will have the same parts and tune-ability as the Skyline and Laurel, however the Stagea weighs up to 1620Kg in turbo-4WD layout, or 1720Kg for the Autech 260RS. Just for reference, the heaviest R34 sedan weighs 1490Kg while the heaviest BH5 Subaru weighs 1560Kg.

Nissan Stagea: Overhyped? #blogpost

My recommendation: Don’t go for “street cred” - this is where you make mistakes that may leave you shaking your head (like stickerbombs, or the garden hedging riveted to your front bumper). The novelty of owning a rare/cool car does wear off eventually, and you will start noticing how sluggish and boaty it feels after a while of owning.

Instead of buying a Stagea, how about a Subaru GTB E-Tune or Blitzen. They have the same practicality, space and speed, and only weigh 1490Kg. Also there are more around and many of them came off the production line as a manual. Just make sure you get one with a bonnet scoop - you will thank me later.

Thanks to SAU
Thanks to SAU

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Comments

Matthew Henderson

Underhyped*

12/10/2016 - 09:53 |
12 | 22
Anonymous

I will take Stagea over Subaru anytime everytime.

12/10/2016 - 10:11 |
78 | 12
Mr R32(Skyline Squad)

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Me too

12/10/2016 - 15:55 |
6 | 2
Kyle Soler

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

But I would take a Legnum over both.

12/11/2016 - 00:50 |
10 | 2
Deoxide

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I
Really
Agree

12/11/2016 - 02:52 |
0 | 0
Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I’ll rather have a Volvo over both.

12/11/2016 - 07:13 |
16 | 0
Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Naaa I value driver appeal so Subaru for me

12/11/2016 - 07:51 |
4 | 0
Gurminder Bains

This is the best post I’ve ever seen on a Stagea , great job man.

12/10/2016 - 11:44 |
18 | 2

Thanks.

12/10/2016 - 20:48 |
10 | 0
Anonymous

I would personally ditch the wagon and go for a chaser

12/10/2016 - 17:46 |
4 | 2
Soarer-Dom

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

1JZ Power! or a 1G-FE

12/12/2016 - 08:03 |
2 | 0
Bring a Caterham To MARS

Someone making a proper blogpost about an overhyped car without sounding like he’d enjoy watching all of them burn down in front of their owners!
Wow!

12/10/2016 - 20:39 |
44 | 0

I was impressed too. Really good article with listed problems, alternatives and more importantly, the TRUTH. Hell, we normally see these type of post with arguments like “It’s not the best car in the world as a Ferrari is faster”. This man earned a follower!

12/11/2016 - 04:32 |
14 | 0
Anonymous

I am a Stagea die hard so I do thank you for posting this. Ever since I was young I wanted a Stagea but realistically changed my mind to get a Nissan 240sx in the future.

12/10/2016 - 20:40 |
14 | 2
Soarer-Dom

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I would buy an S-chassis if they didn’t cost so much.

12/10/2016 - 20:47 |
8 | 0
Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I’m in love with my stagea. If your shopping for them, it’s not too tough to find turbo/manual ones. I found mine only really looking for like a month, 2000 rs four S, so the only model that came manual rb25det, but even that being said pretty well all the ones brought into Canada that I’ve seen have been turbo and manual/swapped or 260s.

12/11/2016 - 08:36 |
4 | 0
Michael M

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Stageas aren’t expensive, im 16 with a RS Four, $6,000 cad at my door from japan

12/13/2016 - 04:49 |
0 | 0
Anonymous

Well done

12/10/2016 - 22:55 |
4 | 2
E30E30

if the fiat multipla is 10/10 on the ugly scale, the stagea is atleast 8/10, maybe 7/10 with the r34 front.

12/11/2016 - 00:08 |
0 | 0
Soarer-Dom

In reply to by E30E30

To be fair, I would rate the Volvo S70 and XC70 the same as a Stagea in terms of looks.

12/11/2016 - 07:52 |
2 | 2
Anonymous

Or buy a Toyota crown wagon with a 1jzgte and rwd

12/11/2016 - 00:09 |
0 | 0
Soarer-Dom

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Or a Blit.

12/11/2016 - 07:49 |
0 | 0
Kyle Soler

The legnum vr4 in my opinion would be a good choice but then most are triptronics but they can come with Active yaw control.

12/11/2016 - 00:22 |
4 | 0

The tiptronic actually works really well though, the shifts are smooth and quick and it makes you feel like you’re driving a rally car

12/12/2016 - 08:07 |
2 | 0

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